Limit involving binomial coefficients without Stirling's formula
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I have this question from a friend who is taking college admission exam, evaluate: $$lim_{ntoinfty} frac{binom{4n}{2n}}{4^nbinom{2n}{n}}$$ The only way I could do this is by using Stirling's formula:$$ n! sim sqrt{2 pi n} (frac{n}{e})^n$$ after rewriting as $$lim_{ntoinfty} frac{(4n)!(n!)^2}{4^n(2n)!^3}$$ and it simplifies really satisfying to $frac{1}{sqrt2}$.
However Stirling's formula is not in the syllabus nor taught in high school, is there an elementary approach to this limit?
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I have this question from a friend who is taking college admission exam, evaluate: $$lim_{ntoinfty} frac{binom{4n}{2n}}{4^nbinom{2n}{n}}$$ The only way I could do this is by using Stirling's formula:$$ n! sim sqrt{2 pi n} (frac{n}{e})^n$$ after rewriting as $$lim_{ntoinfty} frac{(4n)!(n!)^2}{4^n(2n)!^3}$$ and it simplifies really satisfying to $frac{1}{sqrt2}$.
However Stirling's formula is not in the syllabus nor taught in high school, is there an elementary approach to this limit?
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I think expecting high student to know more than the syllabus, in order for a college to admit 'good' student, may not be quite surprising...
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I have this question from a friend who is taking college admission exam, evaluate: $$lim_{ntoinfty} frac{binom{4n}{2n}}{4^nbinom{2n}{n}}$$ The only way I could do this is by using Stirling's formula:$$ n! sim sqrt{2 pi n} (frac{n}{e})^n$$ after rewriting as $$lim_{ntoinfty} frac{(4n)!(n!)^2}{4^n(2n)!^3}$$ and it simplifies really satisfying to $frac{1}{sqrt2}$.
However Stirling's formula is not in the syllabus nor taught in high school, is there an elementary approach to this limit?
limits binomial-coefficients
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I have this question from a friend who is taking college admission exam, evaluate: $$lim_{ntoinfty} frac{binom{4n}{2n}}{4^nbinom{2n}{n}}$$ The only way I could do this is by using Stirling's formula:$$ n! sim sqrt{2 pi n} (frac{n}{e})^n$$ after rewriting as $$lim_{ntoinfty} frac{(4n)!(n!)^2}{4^n(2n)!^3}$$ and it simplifies really satisfying to $frac{1}{sqrt2}$.
However Stirling's formula is not in the syllabus nor taught in high school, is there an elementary approach to this limit?
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edited Apr 1 '18 at 22:16
Jack D'Aurizio
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I think expecting high student to know more than the syllabus, in order for a college to admit 'good' student, may not be quite surprising...
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– Tony Ma
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I think expecting high student to know more than the syllabus, in order for a college to admit 'good' student, may not be quite surprising...
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– Tony Ma
Apr 1 '18 at 7:56
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I think expecting high student to know more than the syllabus, in order for a college to admit 'good' student, may not be quite surprising...
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– Tony Ma
Apr 1 '18 at 7:56
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I think expecting high student to know more than the syllabus, in order for a college to admit 'good' student, may not be quite surprising...
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– Tony Ma
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Actually you don't even need $frac{1}{4^n}binom{2n}{n}simfrac{1}{sqrt{pi n}}$ which can be proved, for instance, through
$$ frac{1}{4^n}binom{2n}{n}=frac{2}{pi}int_{0}^{pi/2}cos(t)^{2n},dt sim frac{2}{pi}int_{0}^{+infty}e^{-nt^2},dt. $$
Here you have to consider
$$ lim_{nto +infty}prod_{k=1}^{n}frac{kcdot kcdot(4k-3)cdot(4k-2)cdot(4k-1)cdot 4k}{4cdot(2k-1)^3cdot (2k)^3}=lim_{nto +infty}prod_{k=1}^{n}left(1-frac{1}{4(2k-1)^2}right) $$
and
$$ prod_{kgeq 0}left(1-frac{1}{4(2k+1)^2}right) = lim_{zto pi/4}prod_{kgeq 0}left(1-frac{4z^2}{(2k+1)^2pi^2}right)=lim_{zto pi/4}cos(z)=frac{1}{sqrt{2}} $$
by the Weierstrass product for the cosine function. Notice that the final outcome ($frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$) is unaffected if we know in advance that $lim_{nto +infty}frac{sqrt{n}}{4^n}binom{2n}{n}=C$ for some mysterious and non-explicit constant $C$. By squaring and telescoping, this boils down to the fact that $prod_{kgeq 1}left(1-frac{1}{(2k+1)^2}right)$ is convergent, which on its turn boils down to the fact that $sum_{kgeq 1}frac{1}{(2k+1)^2}$ is convergent.
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$$l=lim_{nto infty} frac{(4n)!(n!)^2}{4^n(2n)!^3}=lim_{ntoinfty}frac{n!cdot (2cdot 2n)(4n-1)(2cdot (2n-1))...(2n+1)}{2^n2^n(2n)!cdot (2n)(2n-1)...(n+1)}$$ And with some adjustments results in: $$l=lim_{nto infty}frac{(2n+1)(2n+3)...(4n-1)}{(2n+2)(2n+4)...(4n)}$$ Taking logarithm on both sides gives:
$$ln l=lim_{ntoinfty}sum_{k=1}^{n}lnleft(frac{2n+2k-1}{2n+2k}right)$$ And using the fact that $displaystyle{lim_{xto0} ln(1+x)=x}$ we get that: $$ln l=lim_{ntoinfty}sum_{k=1}^{n}frac{-1}{2n+2k}=-frac{1}{2}lim_{ntoinfty} frac{1}{n}sum_{k=1}^{n}frac{1}{1+frac{k}{n}}$$ Which evaluates as a Riemann sum:$$ln l=-frac{1}{2}int_0^1frac{1}{1+x}dx=-frac{1}{2}ln 2Rightarrow l=frac{1}{sqrt2}$$
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If you look here, you will see that
"The Wallis product can be written in asymptotic form for the central binomial coefficient"
$${2m choose m} sim frac{4^m}{sqrt{pi ,m}}$$
In the same page, they also give useful upper and lower bounds of it.
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that is nice! But is this elementary? I mean do they learn about asymptotics form until college?
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– Zacky
Apr 1 '18 at 8:30
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Isn't striling formula as 'elementary' as this or even more 'elementarier'?
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– Tony Ma
Apr 1 '18 at 8:33
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@Zacky. I totally agree with you. When I was young (long time ago), this is what we were given for the central binomial coefficient
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– Claude Leibovici
Apr 1 '18 at 8:34
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@TonyMa. It is more "elementary" than Stirling but still ...
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Actually you don't even need $frac{1}{4^n}binom{2n}{n}simfrac{1}{sqrt{pi n}}$ which can be proved, for instance, through
$$ frac{1}{4^n}binom{2n}{n}=frac{2}{pi}int_{0}^{pi/2}cos(t)^{2n},dt sim frac{2}{pi}int_{0}^{+infty}e^{-nt^2},dt. $$
Here you have to consider
$$ lim_{nto +infty}prod_{k=1}^{n}frac{kcdot kcdot(4k-3)cdot(4k-2)cdot(4k-1)cdot 4k}{4cdot(2k-1)^3cdot (2k)^3}=lim_{nto +infty}prod_{k=1}^{n}left(1-frac{1}{4(2k-1)^2}right) $$
and
$$ prod_{kgeq 0}left(1-frac{1}{4(2k+1)^2}right) = lim_{zto pi/4}prod_{kgeq 0}left(1-frac{4z^2}{(2k+1)^2pi^2}right)=lim_{zto pi/4}cos(z)=frac{1}{sqrt{2}} $$
by the Weierstrass product for the cosine function. Notice that the final outcome ($frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$) is unaffected if we know in advance that $lim_{nto +infty}frac{sqrt{n}}{4^n}binom{2n}{n}=C$ for some mysterious and non-explicit constant $C$. By squaring and telescoping, this boils down to the fact that $prod_{kgeq 1}left(1-frac{1}{(2k+1)^2}right)$ is convergent, which on its turn boils down to the fact that $sum_{kgeq 1}frac{1}{(2k+1)^2}$ is convergent.
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Actually you don't even need $frac{1}{4^n}binom{2n}{n}simfrac{1}{sqrt{pi n}}$ which can be proved, for instance, through
$$ frac{1}{4^n}binom{2n}{n}=frac{2}{pi}int_{0}^{pi/2}cos(t)^{2n},dt sim frac{2}{pi}int_{0}^{+infty}e^{-nt^2},dt. $$
Here you have to consider
$$ lim_{nto +infty}prod_{k=1}^{n}frac{kcdot kcdot(4k-3)cdot(4k-2)cdot(4k-1)cdot 4k}{4cdot(2k-1)^3cdot (2k)^3}=lim_{nto +infty}prod_{k=1}^{n}left(1-frac{1}{4(2k-1)^2}right) $$
and
$$ prod_{kgeq 0}left(1-frac{1}{4(2k+1)^2}right) = lim_{zto pi/4}prod_{kgeq 0}left(1-frac{4z^2}{(2k+1)^2pi^2}right)=lim_{zto pi/4}cos(z)=frac{1}{sqrt{2}} $$
by the Weierstrass product for the cosine function. Notice that the final outcome ($frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$) is unaffected if we know in advance that $lim_{nto +infty}frac{sqrt{n}}{4^n}binom{2n}{n}=C$ for some mysterious and non-explicit constant $C$. By squaring and telescoping, this boils down to the fact that $prod_{kgeq 1}left(1-frac{1}{(2k+1)^2}right)$ is convergent, which on its turn boils down to the fact that $sum_{kgeq 1}frac{1}{(2k+1)^2}$ is convergent.
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Actually you don't even need $frac{1}{4^n}binom{2n}{n}simfrac{1}{sqrt{pi n}}$ which can be proved, for instance, through
$$ frac{1}{4^n}binom{2n}{n}=frac{2}{pi}int_{0}^{pi/2}cos(t)^{2n},dt sim frac{2}{pi}int_{0}^{+infty}e^{-nt^2},dt. $$
Here you have to consider
$$ lim_{nto +infty}prod_{k=1}^{n}frac{kcdot kcdot(4k-3)cdot(4k-2)cdot(4k-1)cdot 4k}{4cdot(2k-1)^3cdot (2k)^3}=lim_{nto +infty}prod_{k=1}^{n}left(1-frac{1}{4(2k-1)^2}right) $$
and
$$ prod_{kgeq 0}left(1-frac{1}{4(2k+1)^2}right) = lim_{zto pi/4}prod_{kgeq 0}left(1-frac{4z^2}{(2k+1)^2pi^2}right)=lim_{zto pi/4}cos(z)=frac{1}{sqrt{2}} $$
by the Weierstrass product for the cosine function. Notice that the final outcome ($frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$) is unaffected if we know in advance that $lim_{nto +infty}frac{sqrt{n}}{4^n}binom{2n}{n}=C$ for some mysterious and non-explicit constant $C$. By squaring and telescoping, this boils down to the fact that $prod_{kgeq 1}left(1-frac{1}{(2k+1)^2}right)$ is convergent, which on its turn boils down to the fact that $sum_{kgeq 1}frac{1}{(2k+1)^2}$ is convergent.
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Actually you don't even need $frac{1}{4^n}binom{2n}{n}simfrac{1}{sqrt{pi n}}$ which can be proved, for instance, through
$$ frac{1}{4^n}binom{2n}{n}=frac{2}{pi}int_{0}^{pi/2}cos(t)^{2n},dt sim frac{2}{pi}int_{0}^{+infty}e^{-nt^2},dt. $$
Here you have to consider
$$ lim_{nto +infty}prod_{k=1}^{n}frac{kcdot kcdot(4k-3)cdot(4k-2)cdot(4k-1)cdot 4k}{4cdot(2k-1)^3cdot (2k)^3}=lim_{nto +infty}prod_{k=1}^{n}left(1-frac{1}{4(2k-1)^2}right) $$
and
$$ prod_{kgeq 0}left(1-frac{1}{4(2k+1)^2}right) = lim_{zto pi/4}prod_{kgeq 0}left(1-frac{4z^2}{(2k+1)^2pi^2}right)=lim_{zto pi/4}cos(z)=frac{1}{sqrt{2}} $$
by the Weierstrass product for the cosine function. Notice that the final outcome ($frac{1}{sqrt{2}}$) is unaffected if we know in advance that $lim_{nto +infty}frac{sqrt{n}}{4^n}binom{2n}{n}=C$ for some mysterious and non-explicit constant $C$. By squaring and telescoping, this boils down to the fact that $prod_{kgeq 1}left(1-frac{1}{(2k+1)^2}right)$ is convergent, which on its turn boils down to the fact that $sum_{kgeq 1}frac{1}{(2k+1)^2}$ is convergent.
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$$l=lim_{nto infty} frac{(4n)!(n!)^2}{4^n(2n)!^3}=lim_{ntoinfty}frac{n!cdot (2cdot 2n)(4n-1)(2cdot (2n-1))...(2n+1)}{2^n2^n(2n)!cdot (2n)(2n-1)...(n+1)}$$ And with some adjustments results in: $$l=lim_{nto infty}frac{(2n+1)(2n+3)...(4n-1)}{(2n+2)(2n+4)...(4n)}$$ Taking logarithm on both sides gives:
$$ln l=lim_{ntoinfty}sum_{k=1}^{n}lnleft(frac{2n+2k-1}{2n+2k}right)$$ And using the fact that $displaystyle{lim_{xto0} ln(1+x)=x}$ we get that: $$ln l=lim_{ntoinfty}sum_{k=1}^{n}frac{-1}{2n+2k}=-frac{1}{2}lim_{ntoinfty} frac{1}{n}sum_{k=1}^{n}frac{1}{1+frac{k}{n}}$$ Which evaluates as a Riemann sum:$$ln l=-frac{1}{2}int_0^1frac{1}{1+x}dx=-frac{1}{2}ln 2Rightarrow l=frac{1}{sqrt2}$$
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$$l=lim_{nto infty} frac{(4n)!(n!)^2}{4^n(2n)!^3}=lim_{ntoinfty}frac{n!cdot (2cdot 2n)(4n-1)(2cdot (2n-1))...(2n+1)}{2^n2^n(2n)!cdot (2n)(2n-1)...(n+1)}$$ And with some adjustments results in: $$l=lim_{nto infty}frac{(2n+1)(2n+3)...(4n-1)}{(2n+2)(2n+4)...(4n)}$$ Taking logarithm on both sides gives:
$$ln l=lim_{ntoinfty}sum_{k=1}^{n}lnleft(frac{2n+2k-1}{2n+2k}right)$$ And using the fact that $displaystyle{lim_{xto0} ln(1+x)=x}$ we get that: $$ln l=lim_{ntoinfty}sum_{k=1}^{n}frac{-1}{2n+2k}=-frac{1}{2}lim_{ntoinfty} frac{1}{n}sum_{k=1}^{n}frac{1}{1+frac{k}{n}}$$ Which evaluates as a Riemann sum:$$ln l=-frac{1}{2}int_0^1frac{1}{1+x}dx=-frac{1}{2}ln 2Rightarrow l=frac{1}{sqrt2}$$
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$$l=lim_{nto infty} frac{(4n)!(n!)^2}{4^n(2n)!^3}=lim_{ntoinfty}frac{n!cdot (2cdot 2n)(4n-1)(2cdot (2n-1))...(2n+1)}{2^n2^n(2n)!cdot (2n)(2n-1)...(n+1)}$$ And with some adjustments results in: $$l=lim_{nto infty}frac{(2n+1)(2n+3)...(4n-1)}{(2n+2)(2n+4)...(4n)}$$ Taking logarithm on both sides gives:
$$ln l=lim_{ntoinfty}sum_{k=1}^{n}lnleft(frac{2n+2k-1}{2n+2k}right)$$ And using the fact that $displaystyle{lim_{xto0} ln(1+x)=x}$ we get that: $$ln l=lim_{ntoinfty}sum_{k=1}^{n}frac{-1}{2n+2k}=-frac{1}{2}lim_{ntoinfty} frac{1}{n}sum_{k=1}^{n}frac{1}{1+frac{k}{n}}$$ Which evaluates as a Riemann sum:$$ln l=-frac{1}{2}int_0^1frac{1}{1+x}dx=-frac{1}{2}ln 2Rightarrow l=frac{1}{sqrt2}$$
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$$l=lim_{nto infty} frac{(4n)!(n!)^2}{4^n(2n)!^3}=lim_{ntoinfty}frac{n!cdot (2cdot 2n)(4n-1)(2cdot (2n-1))...(2n+1)}{2^n2^n(2n)!cdot (2n)(2n-1)...(n+1)}$$ And with some adjustments results in: $$l=lim_{nto infty}frac{(2n+1)(2n+3)...(4n-1)}{(2n+2)(2n+4)...(4n)}$$ Taking logarithm on both sides gives:
$$ln l=lim_{ntoinfty}sum_{k=1}^{n}lnleft(frac{2n+2k-1}{2n+2k}right)$$ And using the fact that $displaystyle{lim_{xto0} ln(1+x)=x}$ we get that: $$ln l=lim_{ntoinfty}sum_{k=1}^{n}frac{-1}{2n+2k}=-frac{1}{2}lim_{ntoinfty} frac{1}{n}sum_{k=1}^{n}frac{1}{1+frac{k}{n}}$$ Which evaluates as a Riemann sum:$$ln l=-frac{1}{2}int_0^1frac{1}{1+x}dx=-frac{1}{2}ln 2Rightarrow l=frac{1}{sqrt2}$$
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answered Apr 6 '18 at 14:48
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If you look here, you will see that
"The Wallis product can be written in asymptotic form for the central binomial coefficient"
$${2m choose m} sim frac{4^m}{sqrt{pi ,m}}$$
In the same page, they also give useful upper and lower bounds of it.
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that is nice! But is this elementary? I mean do they learn about asymptotics form until college?
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– Zacky
Apr 1 '18 at 8:30
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Isn't striling formula as 'elementary' as this or even more 'elementarier'?
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– Tony Ma
Apr 1 '18 at 8:33
2
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@Zacky. I totally agree with you. When I was young (long time ago), this is what we were given for the central binomial coefficient
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– Claude Leibovici
Apr 1 '18 at 8:34
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@TonyMa. It is more "elementary" than Stirling but still ...
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– Claude Leibovici
Apr 1 '18 at 8:36
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If you look here, you will see that
"The Wallis product can be written in asymptotic form for the central binomial coefficient"
$${2m choose m} sim frac{4^m}{sqrt{pi ,m}}$$
In the same page, they also give useful upper and lower bounds of it.
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that is nice! But is this elementary? I mean do they learn about asymptotics form until college?
$endgroup$
– Zacky
Apr 1 '18 at 8:30
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Isn't striling formula as 'elementary' as this or even more 'elementarier'?
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– Tony Ma
Apr 1 '18 at 8:33
2
$begingroup$
@Zacky. I totally agree with you. When I was young (long time ago), this is what we were given for the central binomial coefficient
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– Claude Leibovici
Apr 1 '18 at 8:34
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@TonyMa. It is more "elementary" than Stirling but still ...
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– Claude Leibovici
Apr 1 '18 at 8:36
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$begingroup$
If you look here, you will see that
"The Wallis product can be written in asymptotic form for the central binomial coefficient"
$${2m choose m} sim frac{4^m}{sqrt{pi ,m}}$$
In the same page, they also give useful upper and lower bounds of it.
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If you look here, you will see that
"The Wallis product can be written in asymptotic form for the central binomial coefficient"
$${2m choose m} sim frac{4^m}{sqrt{pi ,m}}$$
In the same page, they also give useful upper and lower bounds of it.
answered Apr 1 '18 at 8:09
Claude LeiboviciClaude Leibovici
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that is nice! But is this elementary? I mean do they learn about asymptotics form until college?
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– Zacky
Apr 1 '18 at 8:30
$begingroup$
Isn't striling formula as 'elementary' as this or even more 'elementarier'?
$endgroup$
– Tony Ma
Apr 1 '18 at 8:33
2
$begingroup$
@Zacky. I totally agree with you. When I was young (long time ago), this is what we were given for the central binomial coefficient
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– Claude Leibovici
Apr 1 '18 at 8:34
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@TonyMa. It is more "elementary" than Stirling but still ...
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– Claude Leibovici
Apr 1 '18 at 8:36
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that is nice! But is this elementary? I mean do they learn about asymptotics form until college?
$endgroup$
– Zacky
Apr 1 '18 at 8:30
$begingroup$
Isn't striling formula as 'elementary' as this or even more 'elementarier'?
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– Tony Ma
Apr 1 '18 at 8:33
2
$begingroup$
@Zacky. I totally agree with you. When I was young (long time ago), this is what we were given for the central binomial coefficient
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– Claude Leibovici
Apr 1 '18 at 8:34
$begingroup$
@TonyMa. It is more "elementary" than Stirling but still ...
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– Claude Leibovici
Apr 1 '18 at 8:36
$begingroup$
that is nice! But is this elementary? I mean do they learn about asymptotics form until college?
$endgroup$
– Zacky
Apr 1 '18 at 8:30
$begingroup$
that is nice! But is this elementary? I mean do they learn about asymptotics form until college?
$endgroup$
– Zacky
Apr 1 '18 at 8:30
$begingroup$
Isn't striling formula as 'elementary' as this or even more 'elementarier'?
$endgroup$
– Tony Ma
Apr 1 '18 at 8:33
$begingroup$
Isn't striling formula as 'elementary' as this or even more 'elementarier'?
$endgroup$
– Tony Ma
Apr 1 '18 at 8:33
2
2
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@Zacky. I totally agree with you. When I was young (long time ago), this is what we were given for the central binomial coefficient
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– Claude Leibovici
Apr 1 '18 at 8:34
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@Zacky. I totally agree with you. When I was young (long time ago), this is what we were given for the central binomial coefficient
$endgroup$
– Claude Leibovici
Apr 1 '18 at 8:34
$begingroup$
@TonyMa. It is more "elementary" than Stirling but still ...
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– Claude Leibovici
Apr 1 '18 at 8:36
$begingroup$
@TonyMa. It is more "elementary" than Stirling but still ...
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– Claude Leibovici
Apr 1 '18 at 8:36
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I think expecting high student to know more than the syllabus, in order for a college to admit 'good' student, may not be quite surprising...
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– Tony Ma
Apr 1 '18 at 7:56